tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166240688056859219.post5314633226221887186..comments2023-10-26T08:16:58.741-04:00Comments on The Monkey that Walks: Tripping into the swing of thingsfireymonkeyboyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05833974263127787678noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166240688056859219.post-29848776257430558102013-01-23T15:52:46.704-05:002013-01-23T15:52:46.704-05:00I oftentimes think of making the shift to smaller ...I oftentimes think of making the shift to smaller scale; I have been doing Dystopian Wars (recently not-so-much, however), and liked the idea of what you do. I hope, at some point, GW decides to reboot the Epic 40k thing, because that was great.<br /><br />I like the small-scale stuff right now: Mordheim, DeathSquads (the fan-based 40k small squad game) and Warmachine and Hordes. <br /><br />I like your painting, and thanks for sharing!Heironymus Blitzenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02861718801642050619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166240688056859219.post-84479637044527087312013-01-06T10:01:04.556-05:002013-01-06T10:01:04.556-05:00Recently I have been painting 28mm for skirmish le...Recently I have been painting 28mm for skirmish level games. Perfect examples are Bolt Action, Saga and Infinity. The number count on models are low and you can make a nice table and still move.<br /><br />On the other side of the fence, I really love 15mm. I currently have miniatures for WWII and soon modern armies. The 15mm market has really shined in the last couple of years for 15mm jmezz382https://www.blogger.com/profile/03324832418577291106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166240688056859219.post-25888210928940363512013-01-06T09:48:20.581-05:002013-01-06T09:48:20.581-05:00There are two problems with the 28mm route - the l...There are two problems with the 28mm route - the length of time to get an army painted up and ready for action, and the availability of opponents so you can filed that army. It wouldn't be much good if you spent 10 years painting up a really cool army, and then found there was no-one around to play against you, so it sat there languishing and you ended up playing with your 15mm, 6mm or 10mm armies anyway. That's the advantage of the smaller scales - you'll always find opponents at the club.<br /><br />I'll stick with 28mm for Saga, and possibly in the future do a 28mm Bolt Action force too, but apart from those skirmish games, I'm sticking with something between 3mm and 15mm for my armies.Nick the Lemminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07421763979523839533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166240688056859219.post-68378137598146598372013-01-06T09:38:26.893-05:002013-01-06T09:38:26.893-05:00I wouldn't say 28mm is that more expensive tha...I wouldn't say 28mm is that more expensive than other scales when you think of the amount of material and the unit footprint. You can get plastic stuff from Perrys, Victrix, Warlord etc. on the cheap. Most of the adult wargames out there can afford to pay for what they paint. More than that, as evidenced by the pile of unfinished models in everyones' closet. 28mm for big battle games will be a huge time investment though.<br /><br />Another issue will be the correlation between figure scale and groundscale. If a 28mm rifleman can shoot up to 6" in a grand tactical game it will not have the right feel to it. I first experienced this when I tried DBx with 15mm figures and heard the bowmen can shoot a distance I could spit out to. Mikko Asikainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10592243922449669655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166240688056859219.post-39302091461961970502013-01-06T09:08:34.240-05:002013-01-06T09:08:34.240-05:00Scratch that itch I say.;-)
I'm an avid 28mm ...Scratch that itch I say.;-)<br /><br />I'm an avid 28mm painter and so know the pitfalls of it which is mainly trying to do too many armies at one time which isn't practical at that scale.(wish I could follow my own advice) If you stay on one period to playable status you would be surprised to see that it's not impractical and actually is very attainable. Table space can be an issue, but generally speaking 6' x 4' is big enough to fight games on with a few adjustments so don't let folks scare you on that point. Sure, more table space allows for bigger games, but isn't a requirement to play 28mm.<br /><br />My advice is continue painting your 15mm as your likely to game that more often in your situation, but pick one 28mm period or army that really interests you and get started. Buy small and see how it goes as that will help you decide if it's for you and if you find it's to your liking then put some serious time and money down.<br /><br />I paint and play both 28mm and 15mm and like them both, but 28mm is more fun to paint and looks far better on the table top IMHO, but comes at price of both time and money of which I think it's worth it. <br /><br />Like I said scratch that itch and see if it's for you.<br /><br />ChristopherChristopher(aka Axebreaker)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13205928451375232865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166240688056859219.post-84438173749756565182013-01-06T05:07:02.123-05:002013-01-06T05:07:02.123-05:0028mm is definitely for smaller games, as big battl...28mm is definitely for smaller games, as big battles look crushed up on a 6x4 table. I play with just under 100 figures on a 6x4 table and it's looks fine, but anything more would reduce space for moving.Maxamillianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15914768350821676608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166240688056859219.post-62186622350919381222013-01-06T04:30:30.849-05:002013-01-06T04:30:30.849-05:00As far as a painting experience goes, 28mm is fant...As far as a painting experience goes, 28mm is fantastic. I can see the issues with gaming though. You're looking at a big cash and time investment here, so you want to be certain about it before you buy. However, if you buy and you don't like it, you could just donate any unpainted figures to me :)<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01681799401614263953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166240688056859219.post-86254266738944611012013-01-06T03:45:21.186-05:002013-01-06T03:45:21.186-05:00+1 with you and Monty. I feel the same urge at the...+1 with you and Monty. I feel the same urge at the moment, and don't really know why. Something in me wants to try 28mm to play real battles, but I still haven't opened my wallet. <br />If I want to take the plunge, I'll go for Ancients, because Art de la guerre allows 28mm games on a 180*120cm table, which would be perfect. But then, I would need to find a partner...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11008048607697753233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166240688056859219.post-87037952101658569132013-01-06T03:00:25.805-05:002013-01-06T03:00:25.805-05:00Truer words on the scale and scope of things are s...Truer words on the scale and scope of things are seldom spoken. I agree completely. Grand tactical allows you to play an entire battle but the units really are just 3D counters as you represent thousands of soldiers with maybe a 10 figure stand. In some cases it's better to just play a hex & counter game as I do with the musket & pike period. <br /><br />With my 6mm ACW I think I've hit a nice sweet spot. I play on a figure to man ratio of 1:15 or 1:20 and can make a corps sized fight look like there's masses of infantry involved. Large battles start to feel cumbersome in Brigade level Fire & Fury however. <br /><br />For figure scales, I think 28mm is good for skirmish only. Painting more than a hundred of the same models for the same army without much variation just isn't fun. Sure, I add a unit every now and then to my 28mm Night Goblin army and they now number over 300 but in general, no. 28mm is best when you can really focus on the detail on a handful of miniatures.<br />Mikko Asikainenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10592243922449669655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166240688056859219.post-29003838574731744022013-01-06T02:51:35.523-05:002013-01-06T02:51:35.523-05:00Excellent post, it's like you're in my hea...Excellent post, it's like you're in my head! Working on my Saga warband, I'm really having fun in 28mm. All the hard work and techniques that don't pay out in 15mm shine through in the larger scale. I'm mulling over painting an Impetus army or two in 28mm with it's reduced figure counts and diorama basing. <br /><br />You've identified the shortcomings of 28mm. For me, an additional one is my friends who only game in 15mm. If I go 28mm, I know who I'll be leaving behind. As Conrad hints, I don't want to paint a 28mm army and have no one to play it with. I did that in 15mm and it sucked. How about you solve our common problem and I'll copy your solution? ;-)Montyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16094254709103687259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166240688056859219.post-44919285526195170122013-01-06T01:07:58.788-05:002013-01-06T01:07:58.788-05:0028mm is a harsh mistress. I'd focus on the ga...28mm is a harsh mistress. I'd focus on the game you actually play now - there are so many projects that generate work and no games. I'd hate to see you going down that road.Conrad Kinchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15683395740934527502noreply@blogger.com